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KnoBrainer's avatar

So transparent, the way Big Oil actually used the same law firm/soulless attorneys that allowed big Tobacco to get away with killing millions for many years, before they finally got their legal comeuppance! Naomi Oreskes' book Merchants of Doubt spells it out, and of course we keep uncovering further actions of obfuscation. Eventually we will stop the subsidies Big Oil has extorted from governments and consumers all over the world for at least a century, and then we'll come for their assets - stranded and otherwise.

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Barbara Wendeborn Brandom, MD's avatar

i am dissappointed in the dis-information i see here

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frank's avatar

Check out this video "Climate Condtioning" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGy3lTFpy8s

by Tony Heller. His YT videos show clearly for people with no knowledge of history, amnesia and otherwise lack of ability to think critically that the climate emergency is simply another scam, a grift.

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Maybe the oil, gas and coal companies got it wrong about CO2 being the control knob for (rising) temperatures. Back in the 1960's Earth Sciences was shakier than it is today.

There were times on Earth when the atmospheric CO2 levels were 7 thousand ppm, and life thrived. There is no long-term positive correlation between atmospheric CO2 and temperature.

The IPCC Working Group One (the "Science"), NOAA, NWS, NASA all report no upward trend in severe storms like hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, severe droughts or flooding or sea level rise.

US government data shows that the 1930's were much warmer than today, and that heat waves lasted longer.

The variables affecting the Earth's climate are too numerous and confounding to be reduced to one tiny variable, atmospheric CO2, as the control knob for climate change.

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Barbara Wendeborn Brandom, MD's avatar

Consider this; While fishing groups push back on offshore wind, advocates say the industry is unprepared to deal with the threat of climate change, as increasingly intense storms damage waterfront facilities. (Bangor Daily News)

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Barbara Wendeborn Brandom, MD's avatar

Nigel,

The numbers are that every year more humans die of heat related illness. How can you claim that global warming does not Affect human life?

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frank's avatar

Significantly more people die of cold than of heat.

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Barbara Wendeborn Brandom, MD's avatar

(see EPA's Excessive Heat Events Guidebook at: www.epa.gov/heat-islands/excessive-heat-events-guidebook) for prevention of heat illness, which results in more deaths yearlly than any other cause of death related to weather, including floods and freezing.

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Barbara Wendeborn Brandom, MD's avatar

Nigel,

I don't believe that you are really in touch with reality. The rapid melting of ice packs on mountains and at the polar regions, is not 'natural'. Melting of Arctic ice is facilitated by the human damming of north flowing rivers and the release of waters warmed by the sun. Dig deeper or open your mind to what has been recorded already. We are facing bigger storms, with greater floods and at the same time droughts are worse.

If these trends continue, humanity will experience greater crises. The stable climate that facilitated the development of our civilizations will be gone, because of our continued burning of fossil fuels and other excesses of consumption. Now is the time we must change our habits for the sake of our descendants.

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frank's avatar

There are over 130 volcanoes under Antarctica. Could they have something to do with water temperature?

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frank's avatar

Amen, brother!

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Barbara Wendeborn Brandom, MD's avatar

What is more important than the prosperity of our descendants? The possibility of even survival becomes less with every degree of global warming.

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Earth's climate was much warmer in the Roman Climate Optimum and Medieval Warm Period, just to name a few recent epochs.

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